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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     
    I write and record my own music; you can listen to a few tracks by going to wglmb.50webs.com. I can't really describe the style, because I don't make any effort to belong to one. Every song is different.
    But, like so many, what I'd really like is a record deal.

    Now don't misunderstand me - I'm not one of these people who lives in a dream world. I fully realise that the chances of this are minuscule, given the number of people and bands looking for contracts. But I make the effort to try.
    The only reason, for me, to get a record deal, is that it will mean my songs can be professionally recorded and produced. As they are, I record them with a mic headset that's intended to be used for phone calls. I have to sing really quietly otherwise it gets distorted.

    So this post is here for two things really - to get an opinion on my music, and to get advice from anyone who knows the music business: are my demo recordings the right level of quality to be sending to record companies as demos? Or any other help? Does having a MySpace music account make a significant difference? (I don't have one because I'm reluctant to make my music too available - it's not perfected the way I want. I need someone who knows what they're doing in the studio - and who has the equipment - to help me)

    Thanks
    wglmb / Will

    (and, if you find a problem with my webpage, please tell me; I designed it myself...)
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    I'm at work, so I'll have to have a listen later (I can't put up the volume much here). I just wanted you to know your message is not being ignored ;)

    I'll give my comments later.

    At this stage, I can only say that I don't think having a myspace page will help much in securing a contract. I think one kind of gets lost in myspace, with all the musicians there are.
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     
    Ah, that was my feeling, but I wasn't sure. (You occasionally hear of bands that get record deals by being discovered on there).
    Cheers
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      CommentAuthorAjiq
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010 edited
     
    Myspace is good for meeting and networking with listeners and musicians who into your trip.

    Your recordings are a million times better than the old chrome tape demo and they actually sound pretty decent to me but what you need is a pair of Audio Technica monitoring headphones or something similar.

    They are very cheap and quite accurate for the price.
    If you find the right label, you might be able to make your own masters or, at least, mixdowns and tag along with their distributor.

    I'd get a page up, if I were you. You can't make it on your own, in any aspect of life... not as a human creature. But it is my opinion. I'm very private, too.

    You can check out indieland.com too... there is a growing mass of artists, mostly from Oz, there. I actually have given quite a few tips on recording in the forum and between indieland and my posts on freesound, you've got enough to mix and master a decent CD with the bare minimum.

    There is also audiostreet but they are really slow.
    I can't even get into my old stuff anymore and I really wish I could because it ...almost sucks. :)

    No... sounds great, man. Try the ATs though and a ZOOM mic or something like that. You'll be happy you did.
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      CommentAuthorSilentwake
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     
    Just listening now Will. The Peacock and the Sun sounds great!
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     
    Thanks! It's funny, that one's almost completely improvised at the mic, and part of it was originally the backing vocals for another song :D
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      CommentAuthorSilentwake
    • CommentTimeJan 27th 2010
     
    It's amazing how things can come together like that.
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      CommentAuthorSaskia
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010 edited
     
    Hey wglmb,

    Just make a MySpace profile. Our band (Poets to their Beloved) was picked up within 2 weeks by an independant label. They are always searching for new bands. Mind though that even with a label, there's not a lot of money available for recordings. A lot of bands record at home. And recording at home doesn't have to cost too much money. You need a fast computer, a decent soundcard and a multi track recording host. Actually our first song was recorded with a plastic sony mic and was featured on Kalinkaland's Lightwaves II compilation, together with songs from Arcana and Unto Ashes: Lightwaves II

    You never know what happens! ;)

    Good luck,

    Sas
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010
     
    Thanks Ajiq and Saskia. So I'll set up a myspace page when I have time then.
    Being a student, I don't have money to be buying equipment, but it's useful to know about a good mic and headphones, Ajiq, so thanks for that. One day when I have enough money...

    :)
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    Hi again. Perhaps I wasn't too clear. You should still set up a myspace page. You've nothing to lose by doing that.

    Interesting music, by the way. I'm not a musician, so I can't go into technical stuff, but I like what I hear :)
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      CommentAuthorSaskia
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010
     
    PS: Great songs... some of them remind me of Ronan Quays and even Peter Ulrich.

    I forgot to mention one important thing though. Don't get blinded by better equipment. Of course it's important, but never forget that when you record a song with all your feelings and emotions, these fibrations will be picked up and heard. Sometimes songs tend to get much too 'clinical'. If you get what I mean. Never loose the spirit...
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      CommentAuthorAjiq
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010
     
    Crap... sorry -- been up too late, these past couple.

    I meant AKG, not Audio Technica.

    I could have just edited my post but that would have been a bit shady, no?
    :)
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010
     
    haha, ok, AKG.

    Thanks Saskia. I agree that I shouldn't set too much store by the technology, but as things are, it's limiting freedom (I can't put in too much emotion because I have to concentrate on not being too lound for the mic, and on pronounce letters like p and b carefully, so the little puff of air they produce doesn't make a thudding noise on the mic).
    But yeah, going too clinical is definitely something to be wary of.
    Glad you like the songs btw - thanks :)

    OK, thanks for the clarification, summoningofthemuse :)

    Cheers everyone
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      CommentAuthorAjiq
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
     
    Take a piece of wire and stretch a nylon stocking over it and put it in front of the mic... voila -- DIY popstopper!


    If they look at you funny in the store... just wink at them.
    They won't look any more.

    :-)
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
     
    haha, thanks I'll try that :D
    • CommentAuthorcharacter
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2010
     
    You'll definitely be better off saving up money and investing in decent recording equipment of your own. That way, you will have unlimited time to spend learning to use the equipment, and to make recordings to your satisfaction.

    If you've got a label funding your recording, you're going to be on a schedule. All costs will be recouped from your sales anyway, so you're basically taking out a loan that you'll have to pay back at an inflated rate anyway. It's not worth it - all the debt... and "high quality" recordings that may not capture good performances because of being rushed. You could be in debt to a label for years through a contract. Presumably, you won't be a student that long and you'll be making money to put back into your music and equipment, and you'll at least own the equipment and you'll be able to have complete creative and artistic control.

    At this point, record labels are most useful for promotion and physical distribution.
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      CommentAuthordcdfan77
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2010
     
    I've heard your songs. My favourite one is 'Eastrop'. These songs reminiscents me of Peter Ulrich's songs on his 2nd solo album.
    Some voices of 'The peacock and the sun' sounds like Brendan's voices in the demo version of Frontier...and a song on Lisa's Duality album.

    I think, you should send these demos to Lisa (Gerrard Records) :-)
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      CommentAuthordcdfan77
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2010
     
    I use in my home studio AKG C2000B studio michrophones. They are good...
    Audio Technika AT2020 is good, too.

    (I use ALESIS ADAT XT for multitrack recording and a YAMAHA digital mixing console).
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2010
     
    Thanks character... that's a very bleak view of record companies! I can see things have to be carefully considered, then, if one does get in the position where they can sign a deal.

    Glad you like my songs, dcdfan77. I've not heard any of Peter Ulrich's songs - maybe I should.
    When I heard about Gerrard Records I must admit I thought of sending them a demo... but, unfortunately, they work solely in Australia: "Gerrard Records aims to develop and support emerging Australian artists".
    Thanks for the technology recommendations too.
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      CommentAuthordcdfan77
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2010
     
    Good luck!
    • CommentAuthorcharacter
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2010
     
    My bleak view is mainly based on major label record companies, and possibly independent labels that follow that structure. Other independent companies may be much more artist-friendly, but those labels may also have less funding... and more interested in artists who already have the ability to record themselves. In the past, labels were willing to take a new artist and invest time and money into developing their career. Now many labels, both major and independent, look at artists who have already somewhat developed their own career while unsigned. I know of one label who will only sign artists who have already self-financed a CD (whether demo or album)... so that they already know the work that it takes and have made an investment themselves. The music industry has changed, and the labels aren't taking the risks that they once did.

    Look at Dead Can Dance - they were on an indie label together and as solo artists, and both of them parted ways with the label for one reason or another.

    So my outlook may be bleak, but on the other hand it allows more freedom on your part. All you have to do is save up money, and you can record whatever you want - without the pressure of having to create music that will sell enough to recoup a label's costs. And it shouldn't take much money to get a fairly decent microphone and software. That's enough to get started with decent results quickly.

    So what I am saying is "good luck" - and don't limit yourself by making your goal or dream dependent on waiting for a company to give you a helping hand. You probably have the resources to get started on your own.
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
     
    I've just made a MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/willsolar
    Please add me as a friend if you're on there! :)

    Thanks again, everyone.
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      CommentAuthorAjiq
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2010
     
    Who was it that said, "Content isn't king, distribution is"....?

    You could fart into a microphone and call it Elvis Christ. I'd do it myself but I haven't got a distributor!
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      CommentAuthorwglmb
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2010 edited
     
    Who'd have thought it? All this time there was a recording studio just down the road that I can use any time for free! It's provided by my college.

    I've been busy there since exams finished, so my Myspace is nicely restocked with 9 fresh songs.
    Have a listen :D